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The X Files: I Want To Believe
by southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
at December 31st, 2008 (08:35 am)




Synopsis

After the kidnapping of an FBI agent, Mulder and Scully are called in to assist the FBI with an ex-Priest, Father Joe, who claims to have a psychic connection with the case.

The movie goes forward six years in time where Mulder is hiding in Scully's house. The F.B.I. asks Scully to tell Mulder they will forgive him and drop all charges if he helps them on this case. During the investigation their Psychic leads them to various places where the agent was attacked. Scully then learns through research for a patient that the government are doing stem cell research on the people they captured.

(from TV.com)

Writer/s: Chris Carter & Frank Spotnitz
Director: Chris Carter
Originally aired: 25th July 2008 (in the US) – 24th July 2008 (in Australia)


Quotes

Mulder: This is not an exact science. If it were me, I'd be on the guy 24/7. I'd be in bed with him kissing his holy ass.
Agent Whitney: Father Joe is a convicted pedophile.
Mulder: Maybe I'd stay out of bed with him.

Scully: Listen to me! I need your help!
Agent Drummy: I'm sorry. I-I can't help you.
Scully: Then let me talk to somebody there with some balls who can.

Scully: I'm not the one who buggered 37 little alter boys.
Mulder: That's a nice colourful way of putting it.
Scully: I have another word if you'd like.
Mulder: I'm sure you do.

Mulder: I can hear you thinking.
Scully: Sorry. I can't sleep.
Mulder: Actually, I have a little something for that.
Scully: Just a little something?


Links

Gag Reel: Here


Mods thoughts and discussion attempts

You’ll all have to forgive my half-assed rewatch post guys, life is so, so hectic right now. So I’ve made a list (with details!) of what I liked and disliked about the movie. What did you guys like/dislike?

And lets talk about all those DVD extras! We didn’t get them in Australia. *weeps*



Top 5 things I loved about the movie:

Mulder and Scully – I’m a shipper, so sue me :oP I loved that CC stayed honest to where these two characters should be (in my opinion anyway) I admit I was having a few doubts on and off while I was waiting for the movie to come out, but it didn’t disappoint. I read a few complaints about how people didn’t get that M&S were suddenly living together and all domesticated after being “just” partners – did they see the show, like, ever? – but I like how we come into their lives and wonder where they’ve been what they’ve been doing. It doesn’t frustrate me like I think it did with some people and there are some great fanfics out there that fill in the blanks.

Scully – I’m a Scully fangirl and have no shame in being so. Scully looks SO PRETTY in the movie. I don’t even notice that her hair colour is all wrong because she just looks so awesome. FS even mentions some pretty!Scully moments throughout the commentary in the movie, one being when her and Mulder are in the bathroom – personally, I couldn’t agree more. And on that note, I don’t think time has done any favours to Mulder, but the Mulder fangirls can try and prove me wrong.

The sweeping shots of Canada – OMG much love to those awesome sweeping shots of the snow. All the scenery is just perfect and beautiful and I want to move there right now. lol.

The story – I don’t hate the Frankenstein story like I a lot of people did. I don’t feel like its really lacking either. It was very much a classic scary movie for me – or just a classic XFiles. When I was discussing this with someone I pointed out that the movie doesn’t have heavy amounts of CGI to rely on like every single movie these days and I think that’s what I love about it. And I liked Scully’s story throughout the movie too. It was all great in my opinion.

The extended DVD version – I ran out of things! lol. Like I said, the Australian DVD release really blows, but we did the extended version of the movie (maybe that’s the standard dvd release? I don’t know) I like the all extra bits, it actually makes the movie feel even *more* whole. And I really loved seeing Agent Whitney impaled on those bits of metal which was not in the theatrical version – so satisfying.



Things I didn’t like:

The rehash of Mulder’s Samantha issues. WTF CC? Didn’t we solve this in a little pair of *amazing* episodes in season 7? No? Oh, ok then, I guess I imagined it.

Mulder’s free ticket from the FBI. I’m happy that they’ve dropped all the charges and stuff, but omg, lame.

The ending. Ok, I know the boat thing is supposed to be way cute and stuff. But the more I see it the more it kind of annoys me. I think it’s the fact that M&S wave to the camera. It makes it feel less “real” and kind of cheesy.

The Whitney-points-at-Mulders-shaved-face scene. CC says in the commentary that they couldn’t get it right, it was too cute, too businessy (or something) and I was thinking … hey, why didn’t you not have it at all? I cant stand that scene, its weird and awkward and just makes no sense.


Biggest LOL moment: My DVD has “descriptive commentary” I think for the blind? I dont know. But I accidentally switched it on and it’s the funniest thing you’ll ever hear. “Scully sits at her desk, a sob racks through her! She sees a co-worker watching her so she reaches for a Kleenex while trying to compose herself.” I’m going to watch the whole movie with it on one day.


Extra

The code name Done One was used as the film's working title during filming, with location signs labeled as "Done One Productions." The name meant the producers had already done one film. The Directors Guild production list for British Columbia listed a project named Done One, with the director listed as Rich Tracers, an anagram of the sequel's actual director, Chris Carter. "The Crying Box Productions" was listed as the production company, instead of Carter's usual "Ten Thirteen Productions."

Callum Keith Rennie, the second abductor in I Want to Believe, has also appeared with David Duchovny on the second season of the television show Californication. Rennie plays the character Lew Ashby and Duchovny plays Hank Moody.

Xantha Radley was previously in the episode The Post-Modern Prometheus.

Callum Keith Rennie was previously in the episodes Lazarus and Fresh Bones.

Mulder visits the Nutter feed store; David Nutter directed many episodes of the series.

When Mulder tries to call Scully from his cell phone, the display shows two names above hers and one name below. The two names above are Bowman and Gilligan, which can only be references to Rob Bowman (director of the first movie and several episodes) and Vince Gilligan (writer-producer of the show). The name below is Shiban, a reference to John Shiban (another writer-producer).

When Mulder and Scully first walk back into the FBI offices right before they walk into the bullpen, a female agent walks by that catches Mulder's attention and he watches her walk away. The woman is Vanessa Morley, who throughout the series played the young Samantha Mulder, and is the same Samantha in the photo Mulder has taped to the back of his home office door.

Comments

Posted by: Crystal (luciddreamer326)
Posted at: December 30th, 2008 10:37 pm (UTC)

General: Hmm, what to say? Mulder/Scully shipper here, so the fangirl in me also went nuts. I remember people were virtually throwing blows over whether they were together or not. Haven was a crazy place to be, pre-movie. Whitney being impaled was so great as well! I smiled big on that one too when I watched the extended cut.

Plot: Some guy is harvesting body parts for his gay lover in a remote part of Canada? This is the story CC had sat on for six years? I like to think not. I like to think there is another installment out there. That being said, there were good moments. Most of which were the Mulder/Scully stuff. I also liked Billy Conneley more than I probably should have, considering he was a child molester. *sits* Anyway..

Ending: The ending still kills me. I get the whole "nod to the fans" wave thing, but it was lame. So was the boat. I could have settled with no boat and a shot of the kiss without the back of Duchovny's head.

Posted by: Erica (erries)
Posted at: December 30th, 2008 10:40 pm (UTC)
xf | scully wtf?

Some guy is harvesting body parts for his gay lover in a remote part of Canada? This is the story CC had sat on for six years?

Aaahhh! ::tears out hair::

Posted by: Lies maybe truth and truth may be lies... (truemyth)
Posted at: December 30th, 2008 10:50 pm (UTC)
(X-F) Theory?

This is the story CC had sat on for six years?
Seriously, Mary Shelly is like, in her grave, rolling over and being all, "Chris Cater, you have very sizable BALLS, dude."

Posted by: Crystal (luciddreamer326)
Posted at: December 30th, 2008 10:56 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Lies maybe truth and truth may be lies... (truemyth)
Posted at: December 30th, 2008 11:01 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Amy (_folieadeux)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 02:54 am (UTC)

Posted by: Lies maybe truth and truth may be lies... (truemyth)
Posted at: December 30th, 2008 10:46 pm (UTC)
(X-F) Cerebral love.

Re-watched with my family this week. It was fun listening to my mom catch my dad up on the plot: "They had a baby together, you know? And he was abducted but then he came back. And now Scully's a doctor, but neither of them are working for the FBI anymore... But they aren't married."

I love how Whitney calls Mulder Fox, and then, as quickly as a fangirl can say, "Oh, no you d'dn't, die!bitch!die," she does.

I still need to watch the extended cut, obviously.

I like the ending, but I think it's totally to be taken as a weird little wink. I don't think they actually go on a magical tropical vay-cay, you know?

Posted by: Sadie Thompson (milesadrift)
Posted at: December 30th, 2008 11:04 pm (UTC)

I LOVED THE MOVIE. And like you I think the story was just fine. It was just like any other XF episode. I don't know why everyone always expects aliens when there were only a couple of episodes about aliens. Well I know some people expected that. I much prefer stand alones though so maybe that's why I enjoyed it more. It makes me sad that this realistic movie couldn't stand up to movies with CGI. I just loved how real it was and it doesn't get the credit it deserves much.

I've probably seen this movie like 500 times after having the dvd and what not. I love to quote it and watch it and watch it some more.

Oh and Scully gets a curse word for once and she says balls to boot. Oh and scratchy beard for the win. Yeah.

Posted by: Sadie Thompson (milesadrift)
Posted at: December 30th, 2008 11:07 pm (UTC)
xf ; iwtb you too

Crap I forgot stuff in my last comment.

Oh and I agree that the whole sister thing was annoying. Let's bring her up. Um no. I loved the boat scene myself. And I freaked out when I heard there was an X in the ocean via the reef. I had no idea about that.

Finally, can I just say I loved all the inside jokes! It was fun trying to find them all and noticing them in the theater.

Posted by: Mango (mangomandie)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 05:26 am (UTC)
scully star - jadedgraphics

X in the ocean?? Oooo I will have to check that out!

~Mango

Posted by: southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:26 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Erica (erries)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:49 pm (UTC)

Posted by: southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:53 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Sadie Thompson (milesadrift)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 06:14 pm (UTC)

Posted by: MadShrubbery® (madshrubbery)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 02:03 am (UTC)
X-Files: Dancing

This movie brought me back to the fandom. I will heart forever and ever. But on with it...

ME LIKE

  • The score. Let's just get that out first and foremost. MARK SNOW, I WANT YOUR BABIES. And UNKLE, I will babysit for you.

  • I've never realized how awesome the cross-cutting of the abduction and the first search is. Perfectly edited.

  • The theme song playing over the glance at the photo of President Bush was adorable.

  • Billy Connolly is creepy cool. He and John Cleese should have babies or something.

  • I love them bringing up "Beyond the Sea" and "Clyde Bruckman's." Way to hit the olden days! Nothing like Starbuck and autoerotic asphyxiation.

  • The artwork behind Scully when she sits at her desk mirrors the last day at the house. What a wonderful, hopeful glimpse into the future.

  • LEW ASHBY, R.I.P. You do that snow plow of death proud, baby.

  • Make-up sex. 100,000,000x yes. Moar please. "I can feel you thinking" spawned a million icons. "Actually, I have a little something for that" spawned a million fanfics.

  • IS SCULLY'S BOOK REALLY DORI CARTER'S BEAUTIFUL WASPS HAVING SEX?! BEST PROP EVER. Only $5.99 on Amazon.com.

  • Bringing up William is too heartbreaking, but necessary for 2012's TXF3: UNTITLED ALIEN INVASION PROJECT and it will be relevant in some way. ♥

  • Scully's other books: Gabe Rotter's Duck Duck Wally and Memorial by Bruce Wagner. Interestingly, Duck Duck Wally was released after IWTB and I am a geek for looking that up.

  • Scully in snowfall is so, so pretty. I so want it to snow a lot this winter so I can run around and pretend to be Scully.

  • One of the "Stem Cell Research" webpage logos is in the "X" font that appears in the background of the show's opening title card and I am a geek for being a designer and noticing that.

  • "The Surgery" is the most beautiful piece of music Mark Snow has ever composed. Somebody, come on, can't we throw an Oscar at the guy? Though Scully's Season 8 theme is #2.

  • I want to read the book Scully suggests Mulder write. An appropriate title? Fear and Loathing in the FBI.

  • 37 altar boys? That sounds like a Clerks reference.

  • I LOVE IT WHEN AMANDA PEET DIES. The look on Mulder's face...you can see this thought on his face that says, "Oh my god, what if that was Scully down there, dead?" That really hit me hard. The he goes to see Scully as if to say, "I'm sorry I almost dragged you into this at this particular moment." Plus, best death of an annoying character ever.

  • SKINMAN! WE LOVE YOU! Sadly, it's almost time for you to retire. 57 is the FBI limit. :'(

  • SCULLY SAVES MULDER! w00t w00t! Another one for the MSR team.

  • "Home Again" is #3 on the top songs list, I would probably say.

  • From a design standpoint, the theater credits were fucking brilliant. The ice blending into the ocean and the trees was absolutely wonderful. I was absolutely amazed and it was a pleasure to sit through.

  • Whee, vacation MSR! I predict lots of wonderful sex in the light, oh yah.

Continued...

Posted by: MadShrubbery® (madshrubbery)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 02:04 am (UTC)
X-Files: Dancing

...and from the top.

ME DON'T LIKE

  • The DVD would not play in my player and I had to rip it; damn you, Fox. Made me forget to rip the extras. I only remember the art boards and the fan extras.

  • Okay, when Scully gets to Fox's house, she looks around as if she's NOT BEEN THERE IN AWHILE. I don't understand why some people think they've been living together this whole time. Clearly, as we see later on, their relationship had some sort of deterioration in the past 6 years. If they were still deeply in lurve, "scratchy beard" would not exist. She even says, "I worry about you and the effects of long-term isolation." Their powerful Hank Moody fucking make-up sex was just that: MAKE-UP SEX.

  • Who the FUCK is that strawberry-blonde who keeps giving Mulder the eye in the bullpen? At first I thought it was Marita since I hadn't seen her in awhile, but of course it's not. Is there something from the show I forgot? Oh, and Xzibit = bad actor.

  • Scully's major angry skepticism annoys me. Since when was she all up in the hard-core Catholicism?

  • There was not enough make-up sex.

  • I need to know why the three books in Scully's apartment are relevant props and must read them now.

  • "What'd you do?" The shaved beard line is retarded.

  • The only reason the Samantha storyline is being briefly touched upon is because we are being prepared for 2012's TXF3: UNTITLED ALIEN INVASION PROJECT and it will be relevant in some way. ♥

  • Why are they putting the guy's head on women? Why not men?

  • I'm not sure I ever want to be stuck in Angry Priest Hospital Administrator's hospital.

  • "I see a woman's face" is as boringly repetitive as "I am a medical doctor!"

  • Mulder's flippancy to Scully's speech on not wanting to look into the darkness is too comical.

  • The "if you were a mother" comment the boy's parents give Scully make me want to punch them in the face. She's a mother twice over, fuckers, and she's lost them both.

  • Where the FUCK did uber confrontational Scully come from? I know she got a little angry in Season 9, but WHOA, leaving the FBI really did a number on you honey. Guilting Father Joe into a seizure was just wrong!

  • Why are cars always in the way in the middle of a foot chase?

  • S: "This stubbornness of yours, it's why I fell in love with you." M: "Like I said, that's why we can't be together." Again, THEY WERE NOT TOGETHER AT THE START OF THE MOVIE, M'KAY?

  • 2012's TXF3: UNTITLED ALIEN INVASION PROJECT better take place in the summer, because I want to see more of David and Gillian's beautiful bodies. These cumbersome jackets are sucky.

  • I was suddenly struck with the wonder that Somerset, VA might not actually be so mountainous being so close to Washington, so I Google Mapped it. There are a few, paltry mountains roughly nearby in reality, but I'm still not convinced...I blame the unending beauty of Canada.

  • The extended scene of Mulder getting out of his crashed car and the dude finding him on the road above was SO RETARDED. Hillbilly: "Uh, yeah, there's a car down there! Yuk, yuk." M: "HEEEEEEEEELLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!!!" It deserved to be cut out of the film.

  • So we finally find out who the strawberry-blonde chick is: Special Agent ISaidMyNameTooFastTooTellWhatItIsSoI'llHaveToCheckTheCreditsLater. Who the fuck is she really?!?!?! You are useless, woman.

  • Removing the head is so nasty. It reminds me of "Leonard Betts," though.

  • Is it Mulder with the wrench in the labratory?

  • Skinner Googling an address is like the most technologically advanced thing he's ever done. Well played, Skinman, well played. Nice to see the FBI gave you a tech upgrade.

  • Skinner interrupting the icky surgery and Scully coming to the girl's rescue seems like such an obvious ending when it gets down to it. I feel kinda let down. At least Skinner and Mulder's embrace make up for it on some slashy level.

  • MSR kiss makes me cry. *sniffle*

  • WHAT THE MOTHERFUCK DID YOU DO TO THE DVD CREDITS YOU FUCKERS? ALL THE ARTISTRY IS GONE! Did I rip the wrong version or something?

  • I wanna see the MSR vacation sex.


Edited at 2008-12-31 02:06 am (UTC)

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Posted at: December 31st, 2008 02:09 am (UTC)

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Posted by: southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 02:12 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Amy (_folieadeux)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 03:15 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Erica (erries)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 02:57 am (UTC)
xf | ms hope

I liked the music, the inside jokes for the fans, the familiar faces and cameos, and the MSR stuff (especially Scratchy Beard!). I didn't like... pretty much everything else. :\

The plot was ridiculous. It turned out to sort of be an X-File, I guess, because of the body transplant stuff, but no one (M&S, the other FBI agents, Father Joe, no one!) had any clue that this missing FBI agent had anything to do with that until the very end when they discovered the lab, so it wasn't like they were actively investigating an X-File case. The only other "paranormal" aspect (and I use that term loosely) was that Father Joe claimed to be a psychic, but giving Mulder a clean slate with the FBI (after he was convicted of murder and sentenced to death by lethal injection) just so he could weigh in on the priest's legitimacy was quite possibly the lamest excuse they could've possibly concocted to get him out of that mess. And I know they wanted this movie to be a stand-alone, as separate from the series as possible, but it irked me that they glossed over the death sentence thing and made it go away so quickly and neatly. If Whitney wanted to know if Father Joe was legit, why not ask, oh, I don't know... Doggett and Reyes?

I'm also disappointed that neither Mulder nor Scully got to have a gun (or a badge!), and as your resident West Virginian, it bugs me to no end that the rugged snow capped mountains of Canada were supposed to be rolling Appalachian hills in the background the whole time. And it sucks that their advertising campaign idea was to KEEP THE MOVIE A SECRET... and then release it the week after Dark Knight, when it wouldn't have gotten a big audience even if they would've promoted the crap out of it. I think it should've been released in October. Or, like, February.

And there are so many miscellaneous unanswered questions. Why did CKR's character take the FBI agent's head back into the city? What purpose would that have served? Why was he preparing to kill Mulder at the end, rather than throw him in a box like the girl and use him for a future body transplant? Why were all those dozen or so Russian doctors even doing this, switching this guy's body out every couple of weeks to keep him alive for his gay lover in the backwoods of West Virginia? Why did no one even mention Agent Whitney after she died? Why did Scully bring up Samantha? WHY DID SCULLY GOOGLE STEM CELL RESEARCH? I could go on and on, but you get the point.

I just went back to read my reaction post from when I saw it the day it opened in July, and this is my favorite quote from that entry: Father Joe was having these visions because he molested a boy who grew up to have the same disease as him and who married a gay Russian man who was kidnapping girls with a certain blood type who went to a certain gym so he could lop off their heads and sew his gay lover's head onto their bodies? WHAT?? Did I really just see a movie with this plot?

Anyway. I'm sorry for being overly negative, but I just watched it tonight with commentary after having not watched it since I saw it in July, so I guess I had a lot of pent up frustration to vent. But to end on a positive note: I also just watched the gag reel for the first time, and it was hilarious. How much fun must it have been to be on set? How much fun must it have been for David and Gillian and Mitch and Chris and everybody to be working together again after all this time? I'm so glad they included bloopers with this DVD.

Thanks, Amy and Kate! We appreciate this community. :)

Posted by: southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:24 pm (UTC)
XF-M&S-iwtb-2

I think what I liked about the plot was that it was less paranormal and more a regular type scary story. Does that make sense? Kidnapping and hacking people to pieces, I like that in my movies. lol. I'm not sure what I would've thought had that fake werewolf plot turned out to be true.

Posted by: Erica (erries)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:54 pm (UTC)

Posted by: southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 02:04 pm (UTC)

Posted by: M (mitsu_chan)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 03:42 am (UTC)
xfilestruth

Started reading comments but I want to make mine before I forget everything. :P

I agree on all points of why you enjoyed the movie. Cinematography was beautiful, the exterior shots were amazing. I'm very glad they went back to Canada to make the movie. I haven't seen the extended cut yet but I'm glad it was included.

I like where we pick up with Mulder and Scully, all the nods to the fans included. I feel like the places where Samantha was shoehorned in were specifically for the purpose of people who were casual viewers of the show. Annoying to long time hardcore fans, but maybe a little more useful to those who might have only caught some episodes.

I agree with what was said by erries, the time the movie was released was absolutely idiotic. It was widely known that The Dark Knight was expected to take over the box office for most of the summer, I can't imagine why they would be willing to put The X Files up against it. I was so frustrated after waiting for as long as we have to see it have such a terrible release date. Had it been released even a month earlier I think it would have done much better.

Back to the movie itself, I'm glad there was no explicit Mulder and Scully scene. I think it would have taken away from the movie. I like their relationship to be implied more than anything.

I would have liked a little more explanation as to what's been going on over the last few years. Did they stay in contact with Doggett and Reyes? Has Mulder just been sitting home the whole time while Scully works? Did the FBI make an effort to find him or was all the chasing in the finale just for show? Were they on the run for awhile or did they settle down right away?

I did find Scully to be very aggressive. At first it bothered me but I figured that after being away from the X Files for so long, she put it out of her mind and got easily irritated if it came up again. It was as emotional for her to be on cases as it was for Mulder, I guess she just.... wanted a home and a normal life.

SKINNER YAY!

I guess that's it, I watched it a few weeks ago when I first got the movie so I'm probably not getting it all. I have much love for it and I really hope the next one happens and wraps up the mytharc. :)

Posted by: southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:37 pm (UTC)

I agree with what was said by erries, the time the movie was released was absolutely idiotic.

I think to be fair I believe (or I imagined it. lol) they had a release date way before The Dark Knight did and they had no idea that would be their competition. I also think they couldnt change it - or the studio didnt want to? I dunno.

Posted by: Erica (erries)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:57 pm (UTC)
xf | scully epic fail

Did they stay in contact with Doggett and Reyes? Has Mulder just been sitting home the whole time while Scully works? Did the FBI make an effort to find him or was all the chasing in the finale just for show? Were they on the run for awhile or did they settle down right away?

Aaahhh! There is so much fanfic that answers all these questions in so many ways, lol. But I completely agree with you, I wish SO BAD that ANY of this would've been even REMOTELY touched upon in the film. I know, I know, CC & Co. wanted to keep it separate from the series so they wouldn't alienate potential new fans, but... jeez, throw us a bone, you know?

Posted by: southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 02:06 pm (UTC)

Posted by: silcm (silboreanaz)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 03:56 am (UTC)

I really liked the movie.. Specially the Mulder & Scully scenes..

I think the scratchy beard scene was too cute!! ;)

Gillian is an amazing actress!!!!

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Posted by: southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:35 pm (UTC)

I've never really gotten the bush/hoover joke. Or at least, it didn't do it for me.

I think its too cheesy, what with the xf theme played over the gag. It makes the film lose its realism for a moment. Perhaps if they had tried for it without the music it may have a been a bit better.

I about died laughing when Skinner whipped out his iPhone and declared that he would 'google it'! in the extended cut.

I think I missed that. MUST. WATCH!

I'm curious to know why CC made such a point of making it about 'a group of women' It makes the whole gay lovers thing seem a little ignorantly homophobic although I know it's not meant to be.

I think its the scary-movie cliche of "women getting kidnapped by a creepy, seemingly pervy stranger, ooh scary!" The gay lovers thing kind of threw me and I still dont know what I think of it or why they even went for that angle. I think FS said on his blog (or I imagined it) that the two stories were supposed to contrast each other. What the two couples (M&S and creepy!Russians) would do to save their relationships. But would it have made a difference to the story if it was a man cutting up women for his sick wife? Not really. And it certainly wouldnt have angered and offended so many people.

Posted by: Erica (erries)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC)

Posted by: Mango (mangomandie)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 05:48 am (UTC)
forehead nookie - leucocrystal

I absolutely loved this movie. I loved the cinematography and the snow. I loved the SCORE, omg. I loved Scully and her hair. I loved the Unremarkable House, and the scratchy beard scene. I loved all the inside jokes for longtime fans. I loved the CREDITS. I have never loved credits as much as these. I don't even care how cheesy the very end is. It still makes me smile. I loved the Skinner was in the movie and that I was COMPLETELY surprised by it!

I even didn't mind the plot or the new characters, though I could have done with more Mulder Scully scenes. But who could't, really? ;)

♥♥♥

I have yet to see the extended edition or any of the commentaries (been so busy!) but I'm definitely looking forward to them :D

~Mango

Posted by: southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:39 pm (UTC)
XF-Scully-Skinner

How can you be too busy to watch XF!?! What kind of fan are you? :oP We should watch it all together!

I got spoiled about Skinners little role. But I was so, so, SO pleased to see the big bald beatiful dude. I think he and Scully stopped for some car sex ;o)

Posted by: meghan (meghan70)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 07:25 am (UTC)
xf giggle

i loved the movie, mainly for the mulder/scully dynamic. it made me nostalgic for the show that i hadn't watched in years and made me fall in love with it all over again. i loved the cinematography and the music. visually, it's a very beautiful film. scully was awesome in this. i found her attitude with father joe a little surprising. it made me wonder if she had a history of abuse because she was seriously bothered by him.

i know some folks didn't like the plot but i watch xf for the characters and not the bizarre stories so maybe that's why i loved the movie. agent whitney was very annoying, i wonder if they did that on purpose or what. the return of skinner made me squeal in the theatre although i hoped he would show up. i agree that the movie should have been a fall release. it takes place in the winter and it seems more of a wintery film. overall, i loved it and it was so great to see characters i love again.

Posted by: southoffebruary (southoffebruary)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 01:21 pm (UTC)
XF-M&S-iwtb-1

i found her attitude with father joe a little surprising. it made me wonder if she had a history of abuse because she was seriously bothered by him.

I dont think I would assume something that extreme. I just think that Scully's (supposedly) strong connection to children and a man of her faith doing those kinds of things would be very upsetting/agrrivating for her. Though, I dont think there is a person in the world who isnt bothered by people like Father Joe.

Posted by: Erica (erries)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 02:02 pm (UTC)

Posted by: god help the girl (sixpences)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 02:37 pm (UTC)
M/S clouds

I found myself in the pretty unusual position of seeing the film for the first time about a day after I saw 'The Truth' for the first time, as I got into TXF just before the DVD came out (btw, the old rewatch posts made going through the series for the first time even more fun, and also enabled me to skip large chunks of season 8&9 without totally missing the plot, so much kudos guys!).

Anyway, I was expecting to enjoy the film mainly because it was an extra 100 minutes of Mulder & Scully, and who doesn't like that, eh? But I did actually quite enjoy the plot too. The kidnappings and evil surgery stuff was sufficiently scary and disgusting to creep me out (I have to look away during pretty much everything after they start preparing for the head transplant... urgh). Billy Connolly greatly exceeded my expectations as Father Joe, and it was both difficult and brilliant to see him portrayed as a really complex, guilt-ridden character, who was essentially a 'good guy'.

I think there could definitely have been some expansion on certain things, like what exactly was going on with Mulder's legal status and the FBI's (non)pursuit, or wtf the Russian doctor types were doing. Why were there no moments of people going 'that dog has two heads WHAT' or 'that disembodied head IS ALIVE WHAT WHAT WHAT'? Because that's what I was doing. The whole crazy transplant thing just wasn't explored very well. And Agent Whitney just seemed stilted and weird the whole time. And why was there not MOAR SKINNER? And I guess at least a mention of Doggett and Reyes would have been nice.

However, mainly I was in love with the MSR. I just loved that they were together in a really normal, domestic kind of way. They talked about their problems! In bed! They have a little house together! They held hands! They bantered! Scully saved Mulder from an evil Russian kidnapper guy! Actually Scully was just the epitome of awesome throughout.

I also love that little fact about Vanessa Morley being in it, because I totally wrote a 'Mulder sees a woman who looks like Samantha in a random place' scene in my first XF fic...

Posted by: jenn_sundin13 (jenn_sundin13)
Posted at: December 31st, 2008 06:09 pm (UTC)

Loving the comments and discussion here. I have quite a long post in my journal that is public for anyone to read if you wish, it's here (http://jenn-sundin13.livejournal.com/162238.html).

The one comment I would like to make that I haven't read much of is the lack of story structure in the beginning. I loved the movie, don't get me wrong, but at the beginning of the flick I needed more - why did I care about this agent (Banan)? What was Whitney's process as she decided she needed to bring in Mulder? What was the resistance towards bringing him in? I think the movie needs about half an hour at the beginning building everything up and bringing it together, so by the time I get to see Mulder I know why he's needed back, and why they chose that time.

I haven't watched the complete extended version or the commentary track yet - I look forward to doing so :)

Posted by: Ariel (muffysofine)
Posted at: January 21st, 2009 05:08 am (UTC)

Omg yes, thank you! I hated the Samantha crap. I was completely having a WTF moment... Mulder has overcome this saga of his life in "Closure". He is quote "Free!" damnit (haha) so the step back, rather than step forward kind of pissed me off. I hated the boat scene too. I mean I liked it up until the part when they wave... it annoys me.

But the movie overall is great. I love the extended edition except for the end credits with the photos of the cast and crew. I love the credits with just the shots of the scenery. I thought that was beautiful! And I loved Mulder/Scully interaction. Yes, the Whitney/Mulder tissue scene thing was unnecessary but in a way funny. The only part I probably didn't like was when Mulder is searching in the snow right before the accident and you can tell he's behind a blue screen.

Posted by: Stephanie or Luna or something (lunayoshi)
Posted at: October 21st, 2011 05:06 pm (UTC)
x-files - damn.. busted!

Super late post is super super late.

When I wasn't spazzing and gripping the arm of the friend I went with to see this in the theaters, I was waving my hand at the screen, silently yelling to myself where I'd seen these actors before.

"SDLKFJSLDKJF! Waitress from Post-Modern Prometheus!!"

"SLDKFJLSDKJSF!! Multiple personality shrink from Schizogeny!!" (I think)

"SDLFKJLSDKFSJKF!!! Troubled teen girl from Rush!!!"

"...Wait, was that grown-up Samantha?"

I didn't recognize any of the guys. Apparently I should have. Bummer.

I was under the impression M&S were still living together. They were just having some bumps in their relationship.

Did you notice how some of their acting styles have changed? It's weird. I heard Scully's accent slip at least once. She's gotten better at the crying thing, too. It's not so subdued. It's frickin' heartbreaking.

Trivia says the kid who played Christian is an aspiring actor who's paralyzed below the waist. I thought he did a VERY good job.

FISH!

Both movies had these BADASS remixes of the theme song. I watched an epi out of Season 3 the other day and was still blown away at how great Mark Snow was at creating atmosphere. Then I played the PC game and it just reaffirmed my faith in him. So much talent.

I'm worried for the 3rd movie. If it's to come out before "The Date" but still have decent special effects, they kinda need to get the ball rolling. I should go hit up Frank's blog and see if there's any word.

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